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On This Day In Spurious History (Kant, Critique of Pure Reason, Transcendental Analytic)
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j***@gmail.com
2020-11-06 22:14:46 UTC
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Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING

Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)

Principle:

In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.

Proof:

All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Comments:

Our apprehension of the manifold of appearances is always successive, i.e. always changing. We require an underlying ground which exists at all times.
It is only in the permanent that relations of time are possible. Permanence expresses time in general.
Accidents: The determinations of substance, i.e. special ways it exists.
Inherence: a special kind of existence of the real in substance.
i.e. motion as an accident of matter.
In distinction from subsistence: the existence of substance.
Alteration: all that alters persists, only its state changes.
Grounded on recognition of permanence.
Can be perceived only in substances.
Coming-to-be is not alteration, it is absolute and can never be a possible perception.
j***@gmail.com
2020-11-07 19:03:52 UTC
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Erratum: this text is neither by me, nor is it by Immanuel Kant. (My text-selection finger got tired.)
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Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Our apprehension of the manifold of appearances is always successive, i.e. always changing. We require an underlying ground which exists at all times.
It is only in the permanent that relations of time are possible. Permanence expresses time in general.
Accidents: The determinations of substance, i.e. special ways it exists.
Inherence: a special kind of existence of the real in substance.
i.e. motion as an accident of matter.
In distinction from subsistence: the existence of substance.
Alteration: all that alters persists, only its state changes.
Grounded on recognition of permanence.
Can be perceived only in substances.
Coming-to-be is not alteration, it is absolute and can never be a possible perception.
Jeffrey Rubard
2021-12-07 07:16:37 UTC
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Erratum: this text is neither by me, nor is it by Immanuel Kant. (My text-selection finger got tired.)
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Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Our apprehension of the manifold of appearances is always successive, i.e. always changing. We require an underlying ground which exists at all times.
It is only in the permanent that relations of time are possible. Permanence expresses time in general.
Accidents: The determinations of substance, i.e. special ways it exists.
Inherence: a special kind of existence of the real in substance.
i.e. motion as an accident of matter.
In distinction from subsistence: the existence of substance.
Alteration: all that alters persists, only its state changes.
Grounded on recognition of permanence.
Can be perceived only in substances.
Coming-to-be is not alteration, it is absolute and can never be a possible perception.
Note for Newbies: Kant is often taken as the "good enough diploma" of realism about the world.
Your "Kantian" story about it might not be strictly true, but it at least tries to make sense.
Some stories about the world don't even try to make sense. We used to call them "arrant nonsense".
Jeffrey Rubard
2021-12-10 05:09:59 UTC
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Erratum: this text is neither by me, nor is it by Immanuel Kant. (My text-selection finger got tired.)
Post by j***@gmail.com
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Our apprehension of the manifold of appearances is always successive, i.e. always changing. We require an underlying ground which exists at all times.
It is only in the permanent that relations of time are possible. Permanence expresses time in general.
Accidents: The determinations of substance, i.e. special ways it exists.
Inherence: a special kind of existence of the real in substance.
i.e. motion as an accident of matter.
In distinction from subsistence: the existence of substance.
Alteration: all that alters persists, only its state changes.
Grounded on recognition of permanence.
Can be perceived only in substances.
Coming-to-be is not alteration, it is absolute and can never be a possible perception.
Note for Newbies: Kant is often taken as the "good enough diploma" of realism about the world.
Your "Kantian" story about it might not be strictly true, but it at least tries to make sense.
Some stories about the world don't even try to make sense. We used to call them "arrant nonsense".
On the other hand, if you were to say as part of your argument "Assume the existence of space and time" and your opponent said "Granted", then you'd really kind of know where you stood with each other.
Jeffrey Rubard
2021-12-17 07:11:18 UTC
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Erratum: this text is neither by me, nor is it by Immanuel Kant. (My text-selection finger got tired.)
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Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Our apprehension of the manifold of appearances is always successive, i.e. always changing. We require an underlying ground which exists at all times.
It is only in the permanent that relations of time are possible. Permanence expresses time in general.
Accidents: The determinations of substance, i.e. special ways it exists.
Inherence: a special kind of existence of the real in substance.
i.e. motion as an accident of matter.
In distinction from subsistence: the existence of substance.
Alteration: all that alters persists, only its state changes.
Grounded on recognition of permanence.
Can be perceived only in substances.
Coming-to-be is not alteration, it is absolute and can never be a possible perception.
Note for Newbies: Kant is often taken as the "good enough diploma" of realism about the world.
Your "Kantian" story about it might not be strictly true, but it at least tries to make sense.
Some stories about the world don't even try to make sense. We used to call them "arrant nonsense".
On the other hand, if you were to say as part of your argument "Assume the existence of space and time" and your opponent said "Granted", then you'd really kind of know where you stood with each other.
Like, you weren't really having a "civil discussion". On the other hand, they'd assumed you had some kind of basic rationality about historical and physical fact.
Jeffrey Rubard
2021-12-17 17:17:24 UTC
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Erratum: this text is neither by me, nor is it by Immanuel Kant. (My text-selection finger got tired.)
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Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Our apprehension of the manifold of appearances is always successive, i.e. always changing. We require an underlying ground which exists at all times.
It is only in the permanent that relations of time are possible. Permanence expresses time in general.
Accidents: The determinations of substance, i.e. special ways it exists.
Inherence: a special kind of existence of the real in substance.
i.e. motion as an accident of matter.
In distinction from subsistence: the existence of substance.
Alteration: all that alters persists, only its state changes.
Grounded on recognition of permanence.
Can be perceived only in substances.
Coming-to-be is not alteration, it is absolute and can never be a possible perception.
Note for Newbies: Kant is often taken as the "good enough diploma" of realism about the world.
Your "Kantian" story about it might not be strictly true, but it at least tries to make sense.
Some stories about the world don't even try to make sense. We used to call them "arrant nonsense".
On the other hand, if you were to say as part of your argument "Assume the existence of space and time" and your opponent said "Granted", then you'd really kind of know where you stood with each other.
Like, you weren't really having a "civil discussion". On the other hand, they'd assumed you had some kind of basic rationality about historical and physical fact.
NB: Didn't invent this. The *Prolegomena* is not a good enough "ref", either.
Jeffrey Rubard
2022-01-12 05:23:49 UTC
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Erratum: this text is neither by me, nor is it by Immanuel Kant. (My text-selection finger got tired.)
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Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
BOOK II: ANALYTIC OF PRINCIPLES
Chapter 2: SYSTEM OF ALL PRINCIPLES OF PURE UNDERSTANDING
Section 3A) First Analogy: Principle of Permanence of Substance (p. 212)
In all change of appearances substance is permanent; its quantum in nature is neither increased nor diminished.
All appearances are in time. Time is the substratum in which (alone) coexistence or succession can be represented.
Time itself cannot be perceived. Therefore there must be in the objects perceived the substratum which represents time in general.
THEREFORE: The substratum of all that is real is substance. It is the permanent in relation to which alone all time-relations of appearances can be determined.
Our apprehension of the manifold of appearances is always successive, i.e. always changing. We require an underlying ground which exists at all times.
It is only in the permanent that relations of time are possible. Permanence expresses time in general.
Accidents: The determinations of substance, i.e. special ways it exists.
Inherence: a special kind of existence of the real in substance.
i.e. motion as an accident of matter.
In distinction from subsistence: the existence of substance.
Alteration: all that alters persists, only its state changes.
Grounded on recognition of permanence.
Can be perceived only in substances.
Coming-to-be is not alteration, it is absolute and can never be a possible perception.
Note for Newbies: Kant is often taken as the "good enough diploma" of realism about the world.
Your "Kantian" story about it might not be strictly true, but it at least tries to make sense.
Some stories about the world don't even try to make sense. We used to call them "arrant nonsense".
On the other hand, if you were to say as part of your argument "Assume the existence of space and time" and your opponent said "Granted", then you'd really kind of know where you stood with each other.
Like, you weren't really having a "civil discussion". On the other hand, they'd assumed you had some kind of basic rationality about historical and physical fact.
NB: Didn't invent this. The *Prolegomena* is not a good enough "ref", either.
Of the form: "So... Joe Biden is President, huh?"

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