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The Greatest Cliche of All Time Contest
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Bret Cahill
2013-05-26 17:20:24 UTC
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Bret Cahill
b***@microsoft.com
2013-05-26 18:09:09 UTC
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 10:20:24 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
personally I feel that you personally is the greatest cliche in other
words stop trying to feel intelligent by posting gay crap
Bret Cahill
2013-05-26 18:54:53 UTC
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Bret Cahill
personally I feel that you personally is the greatest cliche in other
words stop trying to feel intelligent by posting gay crap
Don't be envious of gays just because they have the answer and you
don't.
Arindam Banerjee
2013-05-27 04:37:39 UTC
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Bret Cahill
Love thy neighbour?
Bret Cahill
2013-05-27 04:40:24 UTC
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Love thy neighbour?
"Not only must you love your enemy, you must also hate your friend."

-- Nietzsche
Arindam Banerjee
2013-05-27 04:54:53 UTC
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Bret Cahill
Love thy neighbour?
"Not only must you love your enemy, you must also hate your friend."
-- Nietzsche
That is not a cliché. It is a very profound statement, leading to both
success and loneliness.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Dare
2013-05-27 10:49:44 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
Love thy neighbour?
"Not only must you love your enemy, you must also hate your friend."
-- Nietzsche
That is not a cliché. It is a very profound statement, leading to both
success and loneliness.
What is a cliche as opposed to another type of statement?...
like a wise saying or a quote?

"A stitch in time saves nine."
Cliche? It is also meaningful and good advice.

"If you have to ask you wouldn't understand."
Cliche? Explains an important aspect of human
social interactions and psychology as well.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Cliche? Perhaps the key to good relations.

I also made a separate post with a candidate for
greatest cliche of all time....if it is in fact a cliche.
Arindam Banerjee
2013-05-27 11:24:34 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
Love thy neighbour?
"Not only must you love your enemy, you must also hate your friend."
-- Nietzsche
That is not a clich . It is a very profound statement, leading to both
success and loneliness.
What is a cliche as opposed to another type of statement?...
A cliché is boring and all too well known. It does not excite.
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like a wise saying or a quote?
It is wise and quotable and also boring since it is too well-known.
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"A stitch in time saves nine."
Cliche? It is also meaningful and good advice.
yes and yes.
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"If you have to ask you wouldn't understand."
Huh?
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Cliche?
No, since this is not well-known to me, and it is also meaningless to
me.
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Explains an important aspect of human
social interactions and psychology as well.
To pretentious bores and fools, maybe.
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Cliche?
No, this is Christian scripture, rarely found to be of practical use
to the empowered elites - including Christians.
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Perhaps the key to good relations.
Certainly the key to good relations.
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I also made a separate post with a candidate for
greatest cliche of all time....if it is in fact a cliche.
Dare
2013-05-27 12:12:23 UTC
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"If you have to ask you wouldn't understand."
Huh?
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Cliche?
No, since this is not well-known to me, and it is also meaningless to
me.
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Explains an important aspect of human
social interactions and psychology as well.
To pretentious bores and fools, maybe.
My understanding of it is that some things can't be
explained, they can only be understood by experience.
If you haven't experienced it for yourself,
you can't understand the feeling it gives you.

(Maybe similar to the "Mary's Room/Knowledge Argument" experiment):

http://www.philosophy-index.com/jackson/marys-room/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument
Arindam Banerjee
2013-05-27 12:52:18 UTC
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"If you have to ask you wouldn't understand."
Huh?
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Cliche?
No, since this is not well-known to me, and it is also meaningless to
me.
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Explains an important aspect of human
social interactions and psychology as well.
To pretentious bores and fools, maybe.
My understanding of it is that some things can't be
explained, they can only be understood by experience.
No, this is something else. You are saying something like I can't
explain how caviar tastes.
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If you haven't experienced it for yourself,
you can't understand the feeling it gives you.
http://www.philosophy-index.com/jackson/marys-room/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument- Hide quoted text -
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Dare
2013-05-28 12:48:52 UTC
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"If you have to ask you wouldn't understand."
Huh?
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Cliche?
No, since this is not well-known to me, and it is also meaningless to
me.
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Explains an important aspect of human
social interactions and psychology as well.
To pretentious bores and fools, maybe.
I believe I see your point.
It seems to have some meaning within a particular group.
As you have said, probably to make themselves feel good.
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My understanding of it is that some things can't be
explained, they can only be understood by experience.
No, this is something else. You are saying something like I can't
explain how caviar tastes.
I'm not sure I see how that is different from what I wrote...
If it can't be explained or communicated with words (or perhaps math, etc.),
how else can the person understand except to experience it himself?
Although his experience would be unique to him.
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If you haven't experienced it for yourself,
you can't understand the feeling it gives you.
http://www.philosophy-index.com/jackson/marys-room/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument
Arindam Banerjee
2013-05-28 12:59:13 UTC
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"If you have to ask you wouldn't understand."
Huh?
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Cliche?
No, since this is not well-known to me, and it is also meaningless to
me.
Post by Dare
Explains an important aspect of human
social interactions and psychology as well.
To pretentious bores and fools, maybe.
I believe I see your point.
It seems to have some meaning within a particular group.
As you have said, probably to make themselves feel good.
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My understanding of it is that some things can't be
explained, they can only be understood by experience.
No, this is something else.  You are saying something like I can't
explain how caviar tastes.
I'm not sure I see how that is different from what I wrote...
The element of condescension, of some affected superiority, is missing
from what you write to explain what to me is an odious expression.
Post by Dare
If it can't be explained or communicated with words (or perhaps math, etc.),
how else can the person understand except to experience it himself?
Although his experience would be unique to him.
If you haven't experienced it for yourself,
you can't understand the feeling it gives you.
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Dare
2013-05-28 13:16:35 UTC
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I believe I see your point.
It seems to have some meaning within a particular group.
As you have said, probably to make themselves feel good.
Post by Dare
My understanding of it is that some things can't be
explained, they can only be understood by experience.
No, this is something else. You are saying something like I can't
explain how caviar tastes.
I'm not sure I see how that is different from what I wrote...
The element of condescension, of some affected superiority, is missing
from what you write to explain what to me is an odious expression.
Yes, I see that the expression seems to be more
like a personal judgment.
Whatever they intended, I didn't interpret it that way...
the attempt at superiority was apparently lost on me. :-)
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If it can't be explained or communicated with words (or perhaps math, etc.),
how else can the person understand except to experience it himself?
Although his experience would be unique to him.
Dare
2013-05-27 10:51:29 UTC
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Bret Cahill
One candidate:
"This, too shall pass."

If it is what should be called a cliche.
Arindam Banerjee
2013-05-27 11:25:40 UTC
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Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
A comma is missing.
Dare
2013-05-27 12:02:57 UTC
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"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
A comma is missing.
"This, too, shall pass."
Actually, does it really need one?
"This too shall pass."
Arindam Banerjee
2013-05-27 12:55:13 UTC
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"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
A comma is missing.
"This, too, shall pass."
Actually, does it really need one?
It needs two.
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"This too shall pass."
Not dramatic without two commas. Instead of some big and painful or
joyous event, you are now talking about some form not properly filled
in.
Dare
2013-05-28 12:56:37 UTC
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"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
A comma is missing.
"This, too, shall pass."
Actually, does it really need one?
It needs two.
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"This too shall pass."
Not dramatic without two commas. Instead of some big and painful or
joyous event, you are now talking about some form not properly filled
in.
OK...the commas do seem to give it more impact.
"This, too, shall pass."

Thank you for correcting my punctuation error.
b***@microsoft.com
2013-05-28 14:56:01 UTC
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OK...the commas do seem to give it more impact.
"This, too, shall pass."
Thank you for correcting my punctuation error.
ok how about this then... one word
,exlax,
Dare
2013-05-28 16:17:37 UTC
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OK...the commas do seem to give it more impact.
"This, too, shall pass."
Thank you for correcting my punctuation error.
ok how about this then... one word
,exlax,
Actually, I think it has sufficient impact as it is.
Or is exlax meant to eliminate impaction?
:-)

b***@microsoft.com
2013-05-27 12:30:32 UTC
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 04:25:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
A comma is missing.
uhh the comma is in the wrong spot
b***@microsoft.com
2013-05-27 12:29:50 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
one word.. exlax
Dare
2013-05-27 13:06:13 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
one word.. exlax
That sums it up perfectly! :-)
Bret Cahill
2013-05-27 14:59:36 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
Just being maudlin might not be enough.


Bret Cahill
Dare
2013-05-27 16:14:28 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
Just being maudlin might not be enough.
Why "maudlin"?
To me, it just means good and bad will pass...
so enjoy what is good while you can,
and get through what is bad the best you can...
and I also try to learn from both and look to
and prepare as best I can for what will come.

"Change happens."
You can make an effort to make it a
change for the better...although getting
an agreement on what that is may be a problem.
Dare
2013-05-28 08:47:32 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
Just being maudlin might not be enough.
OK....here's one that might be appropriate for the Washington crowd:
"It's not whether you win or lose, but where you place the blame/"
Dare
2013-05-28 09:01:43 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"This, too shall pass."
If it is what should be called a cliche.
Just being maudlin might not be enough.
"It's not whether you win or lose, but where you place the blame/"
or does it go:
"It's not whether you win or lose but how you place the blame." ?
Zerkon
2013-05-27 14:29:11 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
Free Market
Bret Cahill
2013-05-27 15:03:48 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
Free Market
That's not even a statement.


Bret Cahill
Dare
2013-05-27 17:00:04 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
Another submission:
"Know thyself."

If you cinder it a cliche.
What is your choice for greatest cliche of all time?
Dare
2013-05-27 17:03:36 UTC
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"Know thyself."
If you consider it a cliche.
What is your choice for greatest cliche of all time?
b***@microsoft.com
2013-05-27 19:04:58 UTC
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What is it?
Bret Cahill
"Know thyself."
If you cinder it a cliche.
What is your choice for greatest cliche of all time?
not even close to a cliche
you guys need to know what a cliche is.
A cliche is not neceserally a well known phrase. as much as it is just
an overused phrase. Overused to the point to where it just becomes
tiresome to even hear it.
Dare
2013-05-27 23:42:26 UTC
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Post by Bret Cahill
What is it?
You seem to have a gift for making posts that hound one...
at least in my case. :-)

Another submission...if a cliche...

"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time,
but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

--This saying has been attributed to various people,
including Abraham Lincoln and P.T. Barnum
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